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Posted at 4:02 PM, May 19, 2006


            In the villages from North East,  90% students have to go to the field or need to get involved in domestic works  before starting their studies for the day. Yes, talented students rise from these rural areas also where electricity supply is just for 2-3 hours  or no electricity at all after the dusk, forget about air conditioner and internet connection in the room.  Studying under candle/lamp light Doctors/Engg.  and different professionals emerge in these  societies also. Now if these doc/enggs or students with their hard labor go out to compete with the professionals from so called upper class and metro cities don’t we think some relaxation should be given to these guys coming from these backward societies?

 

      These Doctors agitating from AIIMS/IIM haven’t really seen how much difficulty a student from backward classes has to go through befor getting 70-80% in entrance exams. Unlike them these backward classes cannt afford extra coaching classes/library facilities or it is not available in their places to participate in the exams.

 

       Finally, our forefathers had two sections who were suppressed and oppressed for decades i.e. women and today’s backward class. For that wrongdoing which continued for centuries, we have to suffer a bit with reservation for women and backward classes to restore their level and to bring these two sections to the mainstream, so that we can step forward as one India towards the age of super power by 2010 or later.     

 

       Hope, the doctors sitting on hunger strike will have a good sense and resume their duties soon, not further multiplying the pains and agonies of the patients queuing outside the hospitals with lots of sufferings which are getting increased relentlessly with each day.


Are u FOOL, MAD or what else?

Posted by at 12:24 AM, May 20, 2006

Do u like to mean that all so called UPPER CAST r living in CITIES & so called OBC's live in village????????????? Do u write the above only for attracting people or what? u mean that all 90% villagers in NE r OBC's?
Do only OBC's r live in villages & not the so called UPPER cast(the ARYANS)????? what do u know about the villages of Assam or NE? all the people live there r OBC?
u r going to make india super power by providing 50% reservation............. lough out loud.................. do u really know what happened with higher education.......... below r some examples for ASSAM...........

1. In Assam more than 70% student in engineering or medical colleges r from COTTON college ( here all student get same attention.......... the OBC's dont get less attention than the so called upper class as long as i know since i was not a student of this college)
Question: if all the students ,the OBC & so called upper class have the same education in the same institute then why one should get relexation??????????? only becoz of their surname?

2. the OBC's already get relexation in their SECONDARY education to become equalize with their so called Upper class counter part ..............
Q: if they got some relexation to become equivalent before then why again in Higher education? is not a BIASING????????????

3. In Assam the OBC r in top levels than the so called upper class ARYANS ( Assam was always rulled by these so called OBC's & present Chip minister is also an OBC)....
Q.: should the son - doughter of these top levels officers get relexation????????? just becoz of their SURname?


3. the OBC's always get economic concesion no matter what their economic background is but one from GENERAL CASTE never get concesion why not he is from a poor backward family................
SHOULD IT BE??????????????






Edited by ujjwal on May 19, 2006 at 1:55 PM
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Yes to reservation

Posted by jaipurschool at 9:18 AM, May 20, 2006

I agree.

Umesh
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yes to reservation

Posted by shanti meitie at 6:41 PM, May 21, 2006

Those who wrote or ammended the indian constitution are not fools. There are certain reasons for which reservation for backward classes are included in it. Now some1 commented that for 60 years after implementation of reservation policy since there is no outcome(according to the annonymouse), the policy should be withdrawn. My question is --WILL YOU RELEASE KASHMIR TO PAKISTAN OR SURRENDER IT TO THE HANDS OF JEHADI GROUPS SINCE THERE IS NO OUTCOME OF ALL PEACE PROCESSES TAKEN BY INDIA FOR 60 YEARS ? These are the -ve & vulgur thoughts of you kind of self designed upper caste ppl for which whole india is suffocating.
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Say NO to reservation

Posted by ujjwal at 7:08 PM, May 21, 2006

to shanti meitie
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Yes definately the Indian politician r not fool..................... thats why they make the VOTE BANK of BANGLADESI in ASSAM, & now trying to keep the VOTE BANK of OBC with them................

you dont know anything about the KASHMIR issue ,.......... so dont go through what the media teach u for indian constitution & overlap the both issues...................

Do u imagine what heppens to a student when he dont get a seat he deserved only becoz he is from a so called upper class & his fellow get a seat without any labour just becoz of his surname?????????????????

i m not against to give some relaxation to backward people............. but backward is not measured by only SURNAME................. it is measured by the region ........ some regions r more backward than some others... but this does not mean that all people from that backward region r OBC..... so quota should be region wise not SURNAME wise.................... if u not agree with this fact..... than answer my question... DO THE OBC PEOPLE HAVE LESS BRAIN THAN THE SO CALLED UPPER CLASS? IF YES THAN THE OBC PEOPLE ALSO DESERVED LESS PAY FOR THEIR SERVICE ? THEY ALSO SHOULD GET ONLY 50 % OF PAY WHAT A GENERAL CLASS PEOPLE GET AS THEY HAVE LESS BRAIN..................
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Reservation is there birth right!!!

Posted by at 3:44 PM, May 22, 2006

Exactly Mr. Ujjal?relaxation and benefits should be provided according to the regions and localities which are declared as poor and backward. When I said 90% population of NE is from rural areas, you jumped up in surprise or may be due to lack of knowledge about the demography of the region you reacted so. Here is a piece of information for you :

Total population of north east India: 38495089
Urban Population : 5972078
Rural Population : 32523011

(Source: Provisional Population Totals : India . Census of India 2001)

Here I have given the data of the 7-states of NE excluding Sikkim.

Moreover, it has become like a well known proverb that NE is a backward state but full of resources in India. In outside NE, in many occasions you will come across such comments. If the NE is a backward region than reservation for the people living here is must in education and in job. I said whole NE comes under backward class according to the comparisons on the provisions enjoyed by other regions. Now I said backward class and IT MEANS BACKWARD CLASS which includes all OBC,ST,SC,Hillman,Tribal all. Don?t get confused with backward class and backward community. the upper catse or the general category is termed as forward class in this context.

I didn?t mean to offend the so called Aryans dwelling in NE. The Aryan descendents in Assam or in NE are called upper cast just for the name sake. The status of Aryan descendents in Rest of India doesn?t have any matching with the one in NE or in Assam. Here in Assam , I know Brahmin/kalita(Aryan descendents) boys working as safaiwala,cleaner,ricksawpullar also, Which were untouchable for upper castes staying in rest of India.

What I expressed was that whole North East India comes under backward class and reservation is must in educational institutes for their upliftment.Lets not divide NE on the basis of OBC,SC,ST or General. Actually WHOLE NORTH EAST COMES UNDER BACKWARD CLASSES, and its a fact.

Next, A boy/girl from assam board getting 70-80% is not of less meritorious than the guy from a A-Class city getting 90-95%. The guy from assam board may have obtained lesser marks but he/she could have done better if the same atmosphere would have been provided to both of the candidates in the above example. Merit and Marks both are totally different terms. And reservation is given on the basis of the merits not the marks. You are giving something to the backward classes what they deserve for their merit. They don?t need your sympathy. Nor reduction in their pay scales.

Ankur


Edited by ankur06 on May 22, 2006 at 7:27 AM
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Re: Reservation is there birth right!!!

Posted by at 6:27 PM, May 22, 2006

hey man............. perhaps u didnt go through my surname..... otherwise u dont question my knowledge about NE.............

me from a village in Assam.... & now doing engineering out side Assam in a central institute & i can realize what RESERVATION meant for.....

the fact u write in ur second comment r absolutely right...... but the burning truth is that INDIAN GOV. will not going to make RESERVATION for backward region but they r going to divide the people for thair profit according to their surname...... THE 16th CENTURY CASTE DIVISION WILL COME AGAIN SOON....

There is no seat reserved for NE people ( region wise) in any of the top institute(IIT, IIM etc..) ... it is the truth...

U tell about the student of Assam board why they get less mark.... but it is not true that they got less % becoz of less study.... but the true fact is that they get less % becoz of the examination pattern.... in same region a CBSE student get more % than SEBA student with same labour.... i know the truth as i too study in Assam board....


so u r absolutely true that a guy scoreing 70% in SEBA in comparison to 95% in CBSE is not less maritious .... but this fact should be taken into consideration of the SEBA officers ( as THEY BELIVE NOT IN QUANTITY BUT QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Edited by ujjwal on May 22, 2006 at 8:02 AM
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I agree with u Ujjwal

Posted by Anonymous at 6:56 PM, May 22, 2006

I agree with u ujjwal. Reservation should be in economic basis, not in surname basis. If u have a look, u will find that the OBC, SC and ST are richer than the general in NE. Go to Nagaland, u will get the example. Government has given 50 years that I think that is enough for a Backward Class to come forward.
I am kalita, what i got in life, b'coz of my merit. If 50% reservation would be there in my time, I would not be an Engineer today...........B'coz, my father is not so rich, and I will never be able to study in a private college. I had classmate who scored 20 ? 30 in JAT, studying E & T or Computer Science and having luxurious life(mobile, car in there student life).. they also used to get scholarship which is 2/3 times more than me?????.imagine??.i never scored less than 70% in any exam??..scored 110 in JAT???.still I didn?t get 1% of the facility they got scoring 20 or 30
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Youth for Equality

Posted by Anonymous at 7:11 PM, May 22, 2006

Let the politician **** the future of INDIA. Arjun Singh is simply a destructive minded politician who are not aware of YOUTH of INDIA. He will shortly realize as and when we youth of INDIA will get united and **** their FUTURE POLITICS.

YOUTH FOR EQUALITY
VANDE MATRAM
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U r very much right Mr. Anonymous

Posted by ujjwal at 9:13 PM, May 22, 2006

U r very much right Mr. Anonymous.....

I too had dropped for 2 years to crack the entrance..... i missed out 2 times in JAT, but the OBC student got seat with much less marks than me.......

luckly i got a good seat through AIEEE becoz of the new policy of filling the quota seats first.

DO THE PEOPLE AWARE what happen with JAT in ASSAM....
1. in ASSAM JAT the general category seats r filled first... if the QUOTA HOLDERS r in top of the list they admit through the GENERAL CATEGORY seat & the QUOTA seats r remain vecant...
2. than the Quota seats r filled by the remaining students left in the Quota list..

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF........
1. say in the GENERAL list TOP 50% students r from OBC....
2. & next 50% students r from GENERAL category...

RESULT:
(a) in the counceling of seats the first 50% of seat will filled by the TOP 50% student ( who r from OBC)

(b) since the next 50% seat r RESERVED seat.... these will fill from the separate RESERVED LIST.

THE RESULT IS THAT IN THAT YEAR NOT A SINGLE STUDENT FROM GENERAL CATEGORY CAN TAKE ADMISSION...........




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Are you protesting against Reservation or Against OBC??

Posted by at 4:43 PM, May 23, 2006

Is it mandatory that Upper Cast candidates should always be there in the list if they don?t posses the merit also?? If all of the top 50% seats get captured by Backward Classes than its simply OUTSTANDING !!! wow I should say if it happens than India is sailing faster in forward directions. The poverty line is diminishing.

If it happens, still the number of meritorious candidates from backward classes not getting qualified in Entrance Exams will remain 8 times more than the Upper cast candidates.

@ youth 4 equality,
Reservations for the Backward Classes have come to stay. Unlike the superficial portrayal which depicts Arjun Singh as the villain who has suddenly opened the issue of reservation for the OBCs, the social and political implications of the aspirations of those downtrodden in Indian society, has been there before independence and during the past five decades. These facts of history are deliberately suppressed by the likes of Arun Shourie who have railed against reservations. He is only being consistent in his Hindu upper-casteist outlook.


Edited by ankur06 on May 23, 2006 at 7:04 AM
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????????????? PROTESTING AGAINST OBC

Posted by ujjwal at 6:38 PM, May 23, 2006

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Is it mandatory that Upper Cast candidates should always be there in the list if they don?t posses the merit also?? If all of the top 50% seats get captured by Backward Classes than its simply OUTSTANDING !!! wow I should say if it happens than India is sailing faster in forward directions. The poverty line is diminishing.

If it happens, still the number of meritorious candidates from backward classes not getting qualified in Entrance Exams will remain 8 times more than the Upper cast candidates.
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you r coming to the right point....

i m not telling "It is mandatory that Upper Cast candidates should always be there in the list if they don?t posses the merit also??"

so come to the point... if a student with surname "KALITA" or "SHARMA" must not be there if he dont posses MERIT,,,,, THEN WHY SHOULD IT IS MANDATORY THAT A STUDENT WITH SURNAME "GOGOI" OR something else???ALWAYS BE THERE, IF HE DONT POSSES THE MERIT ALSO?????????????

u did not read the above example carefully.... i wrote in that example that there is 50% student in the main list which is also called general list are from so called upper caste, but they r the 2nd half..... so they too posses merit (why not some less.. since it is not mandatory that UPPER CLASS student should always be the topper) but then also they will not get a seat becoz of the quota system.....




AGAIN U DIDNOT GIVE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ==="1. In Assam more than 70% student in engineering or medical colleges r from COTTON college ( here all student get same attention.......... the OBC's dont get less attention than the so called upper class as long as i know since i was not a student of this college)
Question: if all the students ,the OBC & so called upper class have the same education in the same institute then why one should get relexation??????????? only becoz of their surname? ??????????????????"


U have already told that in NE the so called upper class people r also backward.......
THEN WHY SHOULD NOT THEY HAVE EQUAL OPPURTUNITY??????????????


I AM ALWAYS AGAINST THE CASTISM....... NO ONE IS LESS MARITIOUS THAN OTHER IN BORN DUE TO CASTE , IT IS BECOZ OF SURROUNDING......


IT IS ALWAYS WELCOME IF SOME QUOTA IS CREATED FOR RURAL AREAS WITHOUT ANY CASTE DIVISSION ON THE BASIS OF ECONOMIC CONDITION & SOCIAL CONDITION..

BUT IF STUDYING WITH SAME FACILITY(or may be higher) ONE FROM OBC GET LESS SCORE THAN ONE FROM GENERAL,, THAN IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE GENERAL.
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no one can stop reservation

Posted by hiren saloi at 8:20 PM, May 23, 2006

I fully agree with you ankur06.

With their less number in comparision to the huge number of candidates in any of the entrance exams how many seats do they expect to occupy? If all the top 50 % seats are occupied by backward class candidates than what these 50% general candidates are worthy for? Do they want to compete for the reserve seats?

For long, in many places 70 per cent to 80 per cent seats were open in the general category. The upper castes were using it. Right? Now they have been given 50 per cent of the total seats whereas the upper caste population is just 15 per cent. I think that is good enough. What more do the upper castes want?

It is a good deal that 15 per cent of India's population has 50 per cent of the seats. Do they want India's majority on the streets agitating against this 15 per cent? What do these DOCTORs want us to do?
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Hey MR HIREN SALOI

Posted by ujjwal at 3:07 AM, May 24, 2006

Mr Hiren Saloi.... r u the biggest fool??????????? or commenting without any knowledge about the reservation system...
where in India there r 50% to 70% seat r reserved for the so called Upper cast people( the ARYANS)?????
for ur kind information there is 0% seat r reserved for these Aryan people...... if u dont have knowledge the dont comment like ****...
for those unreserved seat anyone can compeet for.... no matter why not he is from the so called OBC.... thats why i have given the example of 50% top OBC above...

by writting
"For long, in many places 70 per cent to 80 per cent seats were open in the general category. The upper castes were using it. Right? Now they have been given 50 per cent of the total seats whereas the upper caste population is just 15 per cent. I think that is good enough. What more do the upper castes want? "
u accept that the OBC people cant withstand with their counterpart ARYANS & they dont have same brain!!!!!! IS IT RIGHT? if it is right, than their efficiency is also low, so THEY SHOULD BE PAID ONLY 50% OF WHAT THEIR COUNTERPART ARYANS HAVE?????? IS IT ACCEPTABLE???????????/
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yes i copy-paste it

Posted by ujjwal at 6:42 PM, May 24, 2006

Mr Ankur... in this topic most of the coments written by me.... so i too copy & paste it into my blog.. is it wrong?
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@Ujjwal

Posted by hiren Haloi at 8:03 PM, May 24, 2006

....You are a damn fool without any knowledge about why reservation policy is there in our society........

If only 27% qouta reserved for the OBC which is 52% of total indian population than how much qouta do you expect for 12% of the population called upper cast??

Morever they enjoyed a lot in the name of cast biasing in every societies. They always took benefits by pushing the downtrodden ppl to backwardness. Now, I say...these upper cast ppls should be restricted from joining educational instt. and jobs for few years to compansate the difference in the level in between upper cast and lower cast!!!
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Reservation for Indian Crichet team

Posted by ujjwal at 8:20 PM, May 24, 2006


Wipro chairman Mr. Ajim Prem ji's comment on reservation:

I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation for muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a OBC player should be counted as 8 runs . An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century . We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player . Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal. Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 met
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@ Hiren Haloi

Posted by ujjwal at 8:34 PM, May 24, 2006

oh... that is the point .... you want the cast division & support it...
i m or anyone else not asking for quota for so called upper caste...... but asking for equality....

do u hear the sentence "FITTEST TO SURVIVE"


if u were not fit then why should u survive????????????????????
if u dont have merit then why to compeet????????????????????

if u dont have the facility, then it is another matter & u should have equal facility to compeet....
if u dont have school for education then government should established schools.... not some quota...
but if some QUOTA TEACHERS teach u in ur schools then how can u lern right things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! most of which dont know how to MULTIPLY....
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OBCs are unfit??

Posted by Plaban Gogoi at 9:24 PM, May 24, 2006

I am not talking about other states but in Assam dont say that OBCs are physically or mentally unfit than their Aryan counterpart.

But yes, in average, they are financially backward or you can say unfit. Thats why reservation is must for them to continue their higher studies. And if the OBCs from Assam are moved forwarded through different financial modes including reservation...i am sure the talent or merit will not get distorted.

Unlike other parts of India where it is scared that TALENT WILL LOSS DUE TO RESERVATION, will not happen in case of OBCs in Assam. they deserve it.

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Please Avoid Repeatetions

Posted by ankur06 at 1:59 PM, May 25, 2006

Viewers are requested to read the discussion completely before raising any argument!

Please dont repeat the points which have been already discussed!

Thank you!
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Who says Ahom in Assam are Financialy Backward

Posted by Anonymous at 5:29 PM, May 25, 2006

Mr Gogoi, before commenting on any issue, U should have knowledge on it. How can u say that Ahoms in Assam are Financially Backwards? U sud know that they were ruler in Assam, and Assam's CM is also Ahom. Go to upper Assam, See the OBC's there, who say to do them too much show off, if they r financially backward? If they r poor, how can they have Luxurious life and too much show off?
Knowledgewise, U cant say anyone backward. I have classmate ST, Hills who were very brilliant.
And one point is that, If u ppl want financial support, why u don?t think to divide on the basis of economics. There are Aryan's in Assam, who have brains, but poor.
I myself, have a very poor background.. thank to god at my time there was not OBC reservation.
And one more think, OBC student, when they got admission without using quota, they admit as general. when dont get, they use quota. All are opportunists.
Hey Mr. Gogoi, first ask the OBC ppl to invest money on education, not on Luxurious things and showing..
when the education comes, u ppl want governments help, otherwise u can spent money on Drinks, too much materialistic thing........want to live like king........
Dont u have self respect, when say's urself as Backward Class?
Mr. Gogoi, first u ppl stop doing fashion show everywhere, then comment as urself as poor.
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Mr. Hiren Haloi

Posted by Nisha at 5:39 PM, May 25, 2006

I think u r the greatest fool. 29% of total student in India are OBC, as the latest servey. who gave u that information?
Why the OBC in assam want resrervation, they are financially more stronger than generals? so why... u cant devide anybody on merit basis....
I think OBC ppl have less confident on themself..... they are not confident to compeet, thats why always wants a other way to achieve there goals.like the Biharis.......
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29% population of India is OBC?? What a Joke..

Posted by ankur06 at 6:55 PM, May 25, 2006

@annymouse?
Is it the loss of self respect to call yourself backward or is that your old Aryan false pride which lead you to tell yourself the high uppercast though you don?t have a piece of bread for the meal!!!

Show off?? I don?t think Prafulla Mahanta was from any other so called lower cast ppl?who bought a flat in Mumbai gifted it to his girlfriend being a Chief Minister in the age of 40. The cheapest Minister of Assam!!!Dirtiest page in Assam history.


Just go through the comment ?Reservation is there birth right!!!?. Here I have given the statistics of the backwardness of the whole NE. Whole Assam is backward. So whats wrong in saying yourself to be backward? Does it hurt your self-(FALSE)-pride??

How many of us in NE do have possessed the comfort of studying under air conditioner or having Internet connection or online library?? But the students outside NE do posses these comforts. Sometimes, even we don?t get electricity supply continuously for 2-3 days in our villages. How come we are financially upward?

I repeat?the whole NE is a backward place where around 90% ppl live in rural areas. And if we rank the rural areas of Punjab,haryana,himachal etc. as A-Grade villages?then the rural areas of NE will fall in E and F grades. So.. Don?t feel shy to tell that you don?t have money when actually you don?t have it! Don?t pretend yourself to be very rich if you are not, it will make your life miserable.


Nisha baby ?you can also read the above comment. Thank for the joke you have written on the forum that govt. is proposing 27% reservation for 29% of OBC population of India. Do you think your uppercast mantri-tantris are sitting in the parliament like Dhitarashtra? If so then they must be nothing else but some Shikhandis only. Don?t say that you don?t have uppercast ministers in parliament to catch this issue!!
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@ Mr. Plaban Gogoi

Posted by ujjwal at 6:58 PM, May 25, 2006

Dear Mr. Plaban Gogoi... i agree with u that the OBC r not physically or mentaly unfit....... then why should they have RESERVATION ON THE CASTE BASIS??????????

not all the OBC student r from economically backward family & not all the so called upper caste student r from economically sound family. if u truely think that the reservation should give to advance them in their economic condition then why it is only for some specific caste????

moreover dont cry for Ahooms.... they rule over ASSAM for 600 years & in present also the Ahooms r in most of the top positions.... if then also u think that they r backward due to not having facility then it is not true..... they r backward for their own lack of hard labour & should not get any concension.....

u people always cry that caste division should not be there..... but when any situation of receving some concension comes, always try to make yourself as lower(??)claste.......
??????????????????? WHY ????????????????????????????
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Read the comments correctly

Posted by at 7:47 PM, May 25, 2006

Mr. Ankur read the comments correctly...... Nisha did not write 29% of population but wrote 29% of STUDENTS. i dont know the actual statistics so i dont want to comment over % but one thing is right that most of the OBC students(it also happen with non OBC but less in comparision to OBC ) leave school education not due to finantial condition but they dont want to study( i live in a village so dont argue with this comment, it is my self observation). So it is not any ones fault that they dont study.

in the list of ASSAM JAT , the OBC students always occupy top positions. so they r not less in MERIT.

who said that Prafulla Mahanta is the worst CM in Assam, why not count Hiteswar Saikia & Tarun Gogoi (ppl dont have money for higher study, the Eng. College JEC & AEC dont have required infrastructure, the oldest Medical college AMC strugling for their approved status, the N.Lakhimpur vetranary college already lost their approval, but he distributed COMPUTERS to advance students )
actually u have done wrong by writting about politicians. the show off sentence is come becoz Mr Gogoi wrote that only the OBC people dont have money for higher studies. and it is true what the Anonymous wrote.... the people in the OBC category r not forward(if u think so) not becoz of economic condition but becoz of less strugle. they dont want to do hard labour since they knows that they have QUOTA & they easily get it.
there is no quota system in primary education. if people from those caste listed in OBCnot going to school then what is the meaning of giving Quota in higher education?


Again u r saying that whole of the NE people r backward( which is true) but is the present or future system of reservation include all the NE people????? if not then why biasing to some people?????


there is no meaning of writing this"
"Do you think your uppercast mantri-tantris are sitting in the parliament like Dhitarashtra? If so then they must be nothing else but some Shikhandis only. Don?t say that you don?t have uppercast ministers in parliament to catch this issue!!"

the politicians always do by what they benifited in their political life(exception is always there). for example why the CONGRESS politician always protested against IMDT , did there was not any Assamese politician !!!! but why they follow the MAIN STREM INDIAN CONGRESSI politicians....... BECOZ OF POLITICAL GAIN ONLY.......
SO THE UPPER CASTE POLITICIAN ALSO WILL NOT PROTEST AGAINST THIS ISSUE BECOZ IF THEY DO SO THEY LOOSE THEIR POLITICAL STABILITY.... SINCE THE VOTER R NOTE ONLY UPPER CASTE VOTERS......


Edited by ujjwal on May 25, 2006 at 9:27 AM
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Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous at 10:14 PM, May 25, 2006

cooooooooooooooooooool!!!

Guys...i have read almost all the topics in bhiu.com today. i loved this site. i found this North East topic is more kind of hot and volatile right now...and i see all the latest comments here. Good one. But please dont get communal. Particularly Ankur dada/bhai and Ujjwal dada /Bhai..i think both of you are from assam and assamese...please carry on your disscussion in cool temper...dont get emotional. At the end when the issue will be over...we will be one again. We will need each other while chasing biharis and mias (kidding) or smsing to make Debojit win. Dont forget Debojit factor that we have to fight alone always and asomia ppl will be supported by asomias only. We will always need each other.Dont get miscaried by whats happening in national level. Asom has to fight its own battle in its own way. thats why we are called Asomia. Good Luck
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Ya!! I Do Read The Comments Carefully!!

Posted by ankur06 at 2:35 PM, May 26, 2006

Mr. Ujjwal? I think I was correct in reacting on 29% statistics. whether it points to common population terminology or points to students only?anyway that data was bogus!! The writer can?t give authenticity of the data if demanded?am sure!!

Ujjwal, What?s this?you had observation on the OBC students that they are lazy, they don?t want to do hard work in studies since they are sure to avail a seat through quota, they don?t want to go to school, they leave studies early etc. etc? you made me quite embarrassed. But then you made me totally confused saying OBC student tops in merit list in JAT. Now which sentence should I believe.

Do you want to say that they don?t go to school, they don?t study, they are drunkerz but still they get some top or good positions in the merit if they try.

If you want to say that the number of OBC students are less for higher studies and those few are anyway capable of getting seat through merit list then can you tell me in which year the quota for OBC in JAT or in Medical test in Assam left unfilled?

I don?t have doubt on any guys from North East. They are all brilliant.

From the beginning am emphasizing on the reservation. I didn?t say that OBCs should get reservation and upper caste shouldn?t have reservation. You also agreed in that point that whole NE is backward and reservation should be provided location/region/financial condition wise.

Most of the people from backward class would agree with you that reservation or such kind of assistance should be provided to upper caste people also especially who reside in NE. But no one will agree that reservation should be abolished because some parts of people are not receiving it. It is like ?Burn your neighbour?s house since your own house is in fire ?.

So why should oppose the reservation? Instead propose to include the eligible casts also into reservation! That will benefit all of us. In my previous comment I said the Aryan descendent in NE are also very poor in comparison to their counterpart in rest of India.

Again I repeat. People of North East are Not Meritless. Whole region is backward. And Reservation is must for all of them. NE students should demand all the people of NE to be included into backward class instead of opposing reservation! I agree with last comment by anonymous that Assamese people have to fight their own battle in their own way. Our attributes rarely match with the others in rest of India.

Regarding IMDT, I think we will start a discussion as new topic soon. Frankly speaking I don?t have much Idea on IMDT whether we should oppose or propose it. Hope you?ll initiate that discussion later in your blog after all these are over.
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who told u JAT seats never remain vacent?

Posted by at 7:19 PM, May 26, 2006

first of all i wrotee the coment "lazy or not willing" for most of the students not all the student. there r always labourous student from OBC thats why they always keep the top positions in merit list of JAT & took admission through GENERAL LIST & not through the OBC list. but in comparision to the population the total no of student r less as i told the reason, & it is extreemly true fact , dont get shame on it.
secondly who told u JAT seat r not remain vacent? go to the office & study the 2002 admissions. or go to JEC & ask any student.
thirdly i oppose the present proposal of reservation becoz if the reservation comes into exist then student like me will never get a seat.


I M NOT TRYING TO BURN YOUR HOUSE BECOZ MY HOUSE IS ALREADY BURN BUT TRYING TO PUT OF THE FIRE WHICH U TRY TO LIT OTHERWISE IT WILL BURN MY HOUSE
in my case, in 2004 if the reservation was 50% then definitely i never got my present seat. my rank was 102 over Assam & total no of seat was 119, and i got ELECTRONICS & COMMUNICATION branch which was my dream & to achieve this goal i lost my two years ( since i drope for 2 times). but if there is a 50 % reservation total no of seat left in general list is 110 & i got only a civil branch.

Edited by ujjwal on May 26, 2006 at 8:52 AM
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Posted by Anonymous at 1:25 PM, June 3, 2006

I'm in sync with what Ankur has said
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